Mobilization of We The People in support of our military is a frequent theme on this blog. Mobilization of an an ideologically driven political counterforce to our military along the lines of a Sturmabteilung or Leibstandarte Barack Obama will become yet another battle in the not-so-Cold Civil War.
“Loving your country shouldn’t just mean watching fireworks on the 4th of July,”
“Loving your country must mean accepting your responsibility to do your part to change it. If you do, your life will be richer, our country will be stronger.”
“I won’t just ask for your vote as a candidate,”
“I will ask for your service and your active citizenship when I’m president of the United States. This won’t be a call issued in one speech or one program. I want this to be a central cause of my presidency. We will ask Americans to serve. We will create new opportunities for Americans to serve.”
Obama said he would boost the size of the active military, but that the nation’s future depends on more than just additional soldiers.
“It also depends on the teacher in East L.A., or the nurse in Appalachia, the after-school working in New Orleans, the Peace Corps volunteer in Africa, the Foreign Service officer in Indonesia,” he said.
“We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set,” he said. “We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded.”
A civilian national security force just as powerful, strong and well-funded as the United States Armed Forces sounds damn expensive to me. Scary as hell, too. Will this CNSF have nukes? Maybe the Air Force will quit hassling the Army over UAV’s and start worrying about the DNCFK.
Merci Beaucoup Chief Glenn, The Swamp, Lonewacko, and Protein Wisdom.
Propaganda is also a frequent topic of discussion here, and inkling provides us with a good old-fashioned poster:
UPDATE: Herschel Smith has questions about the CNSF.
Civilian Irregular Information Defense Group 
A civilian national security force just as powerful, strong and well-funded as the United States Armed Forces sounds damn expensive to me. Scary as hell, too.
The President will still be in charge of this national security force:
Article II section 2: The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States
There’s no Constitutional provision for a standing Army or Navy, but there is provision for not abolishing the Militia.
Amendment 2: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
President Obama in charge of such a force (use of the word implying intention to arm and authorize such an organization to use it, most likely on people like me) is the scary part. And rather than pay double to bring their Red Banner Guards Civilian National Security Force up to the power, strength and funding of the military, they are much more likely to cut military funding in half, which is national suicide.
Neither the Organized Militia/National Guard nor the Unorganized Militia will be included in Obama’s Civilian National Security Force, the Organized Militia because it is not civilian, and the Unorganized Militia because it is not the President’s to call up short of a horrendous catastrophe threatening the continued existence of the Republic.
Obama is probably talking about how the law of Posse Comitatus prevents the Department of Defense from doing something as basic to national security such as patrolling our own borders and ports of call. He does seem to be so serious about prosecuting the war on terror that he wants to disengage from the sideshow in Iraq and get back to the Afghan/Pakistani borderlands where, you know, Osama bin Laden is. A civilian national security “force” probably means a beefed up FBI. As to that being scary or not, there are people who are scared of the name “Hussein” and there are people who are scared by disregard for flag lapel pins. This is the Home of the Brave.
What Obama is doing on this subject is exactly what Obama has done on every subject.
He’s making shit up as he goes along, not a clue as to what is actually possible or even a nod to a functional understanding of cause and effect. Plain, pure, unadulterated bullcrap growing up out of an endless well of incompetence.
There is no part of what this man says that is grounded in anything even vaguely resembling reality.
That he got this far is just a stunning example of how amazingly deep the intellectual inbreeding goes for such a large portion of our population.
There’s no way in hell that anyone with any sort of functional critical thinking skill-set can listen to this weak suck of a con artist for more than 5 minutes without shaking their heads and laughing.
B. Hussein O. hasn’t mentioned Posse Comitatus, and he can talk about a main effort in Central Asia but he cannot carry the war into Pakistan when all his beans, bullets and go juice comes from there.
He hasn’t mentioned using his CNSF to augment the FBI.
Why does such a “wonderful orator” need others to clarify what he probably means?
I don’t fear a candidate for president with the middle name Hussein and a last name that rhymes with Osama. I just find him ludicrous. Like Barack Hirohito Shitler running for president in 1944.
During the ’80’s there were suckers born every minute, Grimmy.
In that respect, the ’80’s were the same as every decade prior and every decade to come.
The primary difference now is that the suckers are led to believe they should be proud of their idiocy and display that idiocy in as aggressive a manner as possible.
The suckers born in the ’80’s are The Messiah’s most devoted disciples and the sheep easiest sheared.
The President will still be in charge of this national security force:
It just won’t be covered by Constitional protections or Congressional oversight like the US military is.
How could it be, when the Founding Fathers never created a special military unit loyal solely to the US President?
Can we say, feudalism?
and of the Militia of the several States
That’s cause the militia are coming from the people in every State and is often armed or regulated by their State. To say that the President will be in charge of a national security force that’s dependent on his whims alone, and that this is somehow okay because the President can nationalize the National Guard or mobilize citizens in a enforced draft, is pretty clueless.
No wonder the Soviets devoted so much effort to KGB infiltration, sabotage, subversion, and espionage. It is so much easier than actually fighting a real hot war.
Obama is probably talking about how the law of Posse Comitatus prevents the Department of Defense from doing something as basic to national security such as patrolling our own borders and ports of call.
I love militarists that prefer to protect their own hides than the women and children in foreign lands. Everything is okay, so long as they get to exploit America’s military, including violating Posse Comitatus or any various other laws protecting America’s fragile balance of powers.
A civilian national security “force” probably means a beefed up FBI.
I’ve always wondered if people are so into self-delusion, why Bush didn’t take advantage of this fact. Maybe he just could never tolerate being in the same room with such people.
A sympathetic interpretation of Obama’s Civilian National Security Force would be expanding and upgrading the capability of Other Government Agencies to play appropriate roles in The Long War and quit dumping everything on DOD. SECDEF Gates has been making noises along those lines for some time, and SECSTATE Rice has come up with a Civilian Response Corps to provide reconstruction and stabilization assistance.
I’m not inclined to interpret Obama sympathetically.
He seems to me to want to compel, by the use of force, or the threat of the use of force, or extortion, young people to to submit to involuntary servitude in non-military organizations with non-military missions.
For a potential Commander-in-Chief to say out loud he wants a Civilian National Security Force just as powerful, strong and well-funded as the United States Armed Forces, indicates one of two things, neither of them good.
Maybe his telepromper broke, but he gets no benefit of the doubt from me.
The Obama/Uncle J National Service Plan covered much of this ground.
Ask not what your country can do for you.
Ask what you can do for Obama.
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Any one got an application for Cyber General?
Whats it pay?
Never mind just send the application.
I already have a list of targets, sites and IPs.
I think I can deter some of those hacking Gov and Mil sites.
I would attach consequences to messing with a Gov firewall.
And leave no tracks, no wounded and a just few smoking PC’s.
Bad guys would be seeing lot more pop ups, and system problems.
I could dominate this domain just like the ‘Air Force’ can dominate the
Air. And I would have extensive rules of engagement and plenty of unattributed action.
Bad guys would think twice before messing with “.gov” or “.mil”
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