Comments from wretchard’s The mandate of heaven thread:
11. Subotai Bahadur:
. . . This fight for the future of the country is going on despite, not because of, any Republican resurgence. The Republican Party machinery dreams of being coopted and absorbed into the regime power structure, not fighting it.
As far as the decision to prosecute the former administration; it is expected. Be they Stalin’s show trials, the Nazi Volksgerichtshof, or the public confessions and “self-criticism” in front of Mao’s Red Guards; all totalitarians have some form of kangeroo court mechanism to lend a pseudo-legitimacy to their abuses of power. The outcome is pre-ordained and I am sure there have been meetings in the White House on what the sentences will be and how they will be announced.
In the first 7 months of the first Anno Obama we have seen the rule of law discarded, Congress become a rubber stamp eager to pass any bill put before them unread, and the Constitution ignored. We have a new Supreme Court Justice whose rulings will, by her own words, be based on race and gender. We have seen the President threaten those who oppose him with mobs on more than one occasion, and seen violations of the law by Obama’s supporters deliberately ignored by his Attorney General. The confidence in the validity and honesty of either the census or the coming election [if it happens] is not high. So such prosecutions are of a piece with life in the new America.
If we survive the evil times that are coming. IF. Those Who Are No Longer Our Countrymen will find that it will do them no good to appeal to the law and Constitution that they have rendered moot. For we will have to rebuild a civil society before they come back into effect. But first, we will have to deal with those who destroyed it. Lex Talonis
18. no mo uro:
. . . in this age good ideas aren’t enough, you need someone who is telegenic and an excellent, charismatic speaker, despite whatever risks are incurred in giving a person like that power.
. . . We live in an age when much of the American public has transformed from having its chief goal of being productive transformed into being entertained. Whiskey’s single urban sluts, their urban metrosexual sycophantic men, suburban/rural NPR listening soccer moms, public sector union guys, and the like, all fall into that category. They will not care if the conservative or libertarian in question is rumpled and a bad speaker while going up against a slick, sexy leftist in a TV debate. These are people who are more interested in image and being entertained than they are in literally anything else. You’ll never peel them off in any amount unless you have someone who appeals to the image machine.
We have to move the nation back to founding principles. We have to rollback all of the work of the Democrats since FDR. There is no other way. It is the false dichotomy of Democrat vs. Republicans that we must unseat. The real opposition is between internal enemies who wish to destroy us and those who wish to save us, and it is an objective choice. It is not merely matter of pragmatically weighing the subjective points of view of political sections.
. . . Capitalism has had it’s run, and “democracy” has committed suicide. What comes next is anybody’s guess, but would you put your faith in Barney Frank or Rock River Arms?
33. nullification now:
What August has wrought is a determination to end the madness. The tipping point has long been reached and there is no turning back. The ordinary citizen has made his stand and it is now up to the emissaries to establish once and for all this is a country based on the Constitution of the United States of America.
When congress returns in September the battle is joined, the Republicans know that the majority of citizens insist this administration must completely change course. If they are unable to articulate the mood and advocate the demands then other means must be necessary.
October is pivotal, either we fight for reestablishing a constitionualy mandated government or submit to the chaos of change that this current administration insist on. We are no longer a two party system but one of patriots vs internecine cult.
Friend of mine told me the other day in conversation.
I am gettin tired, really tired. I am past angry. I can see what is to come. I have been watching this drunk of a country stagger down the road weaving from right to left and back. Sometimes two steps forward then three steps back. Slowly, oh so slowly this drunk has “progressed” toward this coming day. I am slow to anger always have been. I am patient, even as a child my grandmother said it about me. “Natural born hunter” she said. My patience with this drunk is about gone. This drunk is about to meet his fate. And I will do all that is in my power to see that my children and grandchildren do not have to deal with this drunk anymore.
I had never thought of him as being a radical. He is about as square as they come. I will be glad to have him with me on the line when the time comes.
So Mote It Be.
The Corner at NRO has a link to a post by Charles Murray. Which in turn points to every part of the White population becoming more conservative over time EXCEPT the “Liberal Gentry” which Kotkin coined, the entertainment/media/legal/marketing people, which is btw profoundly oriented towards single young women in urban areas with disposable income, what Kay Hymnowitz called “the New Girl Order.”
This is NOT a fight between Republicans and Obama. It IS a fight between Obama and the Gentry Liberals, the wealthy elites, and the White population of everyone else.
They will not back down, they cannot. Either the elites rule the White population like serfs and servants, or the Elites are destroyed. Bush (and the transparent attempt to charge Bush, Cheney, and the CIA) does not matter, what matters is the elites trying to enslave the people, with ObamaCare, Cap and Trade, everything else.
And there is no going back. No turning back time, no de-escalation. By its very nature, the people, leaderless and grassroots, cannot and will not de-escalate. The current Constitution, Congress, Media, Presidency, Legal System, Federal Bureaucracy, will be swept away one way or another.
Either Obama and his Gentry turn America into Cuba, with hereditary rule (which btw single women LOVE, it’s every princess fantasy come to life) that turns America into a gigantic copy of Castro’s Hereditary Hacienda system, or the people construct a new Jacksonian system based on rewarding THEM and punishing their enemies (the Gentry, and their political allies) explicitly.
But either way, the America as we knew it is gone. Gone: the legitimacy and trust of the media and entertainment. Gone: the Republican party as an institution. Gone: any trust in Dems or the Gentry Liberals. Gone: tolerance for leftism or leftism spoils politics like Affirmative Action, multiculturalism, pc, etc. Gone: legitimacy and trust of the legal system and bureaucracy.
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